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Q. (BY MR. GALLAGHER) Can you not answer

the question?

A. I wouldn't know.

Q. Did any participant in the meeting display any conduct that you found to be unusual

for a meeting of that type?

MR. MCALEER:

Objection.

MR. MURPHY: I'm going to object on the

sane basis.

Q. (BY MR. GALLAGHER) Can you answer

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that?

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A. My own personal opinion was that Mr.
Black was very aggressive at the meeting at a
time when we were resolving the problem for which
the meeting had been called.

Q. How did that aggression display itself?

Comments about what would happen if

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this didn't get resolved in the manner that we

were discussing.

Threats, if you will1?

MR. MCALEER:

MR. MURPHY: Objection; that's not what the

witness testified to.

MR. GALLAGHER: I don't know. That's why I

Objection.

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MR. MURPHY: I am going to object to the
Once again, you are

form of the question.

leading impermissibly.

Q. (BY MR. GALLAGHER) What was the nature

of these threats as you would describe them?

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A. Mr. Black told them that they could

have some litigation on their doorstep, if it did not get resolved quickly and immediately in the manner that we were discussing.

Q. Any other specific comments you recall having been made by Mr. Black in that meeting? A. He repeated more than one time what the agency would not tolerate by way of lack of

cooperation.

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Q. Did you view that as kind of an unusual

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MR. MURPHY: I'm going to object to that. THE WITNESS: I had begun the meeting by describing what we thought was acceptable conduct.

And my recollection is that Bill Black had come late to the meeting. So at the time, I

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was not certain in my own mind, maybe he hadn't
heard me, maybe he hadn't realized that we

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started with a clear statement of what was

expected of Lincoln in connection with that

examination.

Q. (BY MR. GALLAGHER) My question really is: Wasn't his conduct and his statements,

weren't his statements a little unusual in your

15 years or so experience at a first meeting?
MR. MCALEER: Objection.

MR. MURPHY: Object to the form of the

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I have lost track of where we are.

Q. This was the first time that you, and

as far as you knew, Mr. Black had met with

Lincoln representatives, correct?

A. That's right. I had spoken on the phone with Mr. Fischbein once or twice prior to

this meeting.

Q. You have had lots of first meetings with institutions over the course of your

experience, correct?

A. When an enforcement attorney attends meeting, it's generally intended to be the only meeting.

Q. Okay.

We try to resolve the matter then.

Q. All I'm trying to get is an honest

answer whether or not Mr. Black's conduct was

unusual in your view.

A. I found it to be very aggressive.

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Q. Again, on that 407 referral, that was

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Q. Now, did you find any information in the statement of concern when you reviewed it

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that you found to be incorrect?

MR. MCALEER: Objection.

THE WITNESS: I don't recall making any

conclusions about inaccuracies.

2. (BY MR. GALLAGHER) All right. As you sit here today, do you know whether or not there were in fact inaccuracies in that statement?

MR. MCALEER: Objection.

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MR. MURPHY:

Objection; we are talking, you

haven't established a foundation, number one.
Number two, we are talking about, I think, a

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