THE WITNESS:

Objection.

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Harry Quillian volunteered to

ne at that discussion that he thought it was
arguable that the Chairman of the Bank Board had
authority to release information pursuant to the
505 regulation, because the Chairman was the
administrator or the chief administrator of the
agency. And he said that he thought it was
arguable that that was, anything that the
Chairman decided to disclose would have been an
authorized disclosure under the regulation.

Q. (BY MR. GALLAGHER) Did he tell you
that he had discussed the matter with Gray, and
Gray had told him that he was going to release

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type of enforcement order.

And in telling me that, he said that

when he suggested that to folks in San Francisco,

A. No, they would not. He would talk with

the supervisory agent, most likely.

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It he was the assigned agent, yes.

8. In any event, you are waiting now for a
final report and some marching orders or
requests; you have got your 407 authority, and

the Chairman comes to you and says we are going
to interject some new lawyers?

A. Harry Quillian told me.

1. Did he tell you he was there at the

Chairman's behest?

A. Yes, he did.

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A. I believe the actual neno where Harry
Quillian says, "I hereby detail Anne Sobol to
Enforcement to work on this case," is dated
January 15. We talked about it for two or three
days before that.

Q. And again, if you have answered this, I

THE WITNESS: It was Mr. Quillian's opinion that he did. But Harry Quillian told me that he

was just a messenger.

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in your job when they start bringing in another lawyer? I mean, is this a matter of significance that bothers you as head of a department?

Q. Did you take it as a sign of lack of

confidence in your own group?

A. Yes.

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it?

Q. Did you ever talk to the Chairman about

A. I inmediately asked for a meeting with the Chairman, after being told by Mr. Quillian

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ever happened.

8. So you can't get a hearing with the Chairman; you have got an order that a lawyer

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She is going to do what?

it was not clear for what purposes.

I persisted and did get a meeting with chief of staff Shannon Fairbanks about this

subject.

-A. Same time frame: Middle of January.

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decision, and that as experienced of an attorney

as Ms. Sobol was, she was not an investigator;

all of the investigative experience in the agency was in our office, and asked why this was happening, and renewed my request to talk to the Chairman.

9. To any avail?

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Somewhat. Shannon Fairbanks agreed

that Ms. Sobol would be detailed not to conduct
this investigation but to work on it under my

supervision.

And she told me that the reason this had happened was that Chairman Gray and she herself felt that the Lincoln case was going to be a very big controversial matter, and they wanted all the lawyers in the agency getting up

to speed and getting to work on it.

2. Was this the first time that anybody ever suggested to you that there was anything particularly unusual about the Lincoln situation?

A. Yes, I believe it was.

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8. Did that agreement set with you? I

sean, did you buy off on that, that she will work